Dividend Growth Forum
And THAT (ARCP) is why I SWAN with over 100 holdings... - Printable Version

+- Dividend Growth Forum (https://DividendGrowthForum.com)
+-- Forum: Dividend Growth Investing (https://DividendGrowthForum.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=15)
+--- Forum: Dividend Growth Investing (https://DividendGrowthForum.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=33)
+--- Thread: And THAT (ARCP) is why I SWAN with over 100 holdings... (/showthread.php?tid=731)



And THAT (ARCP) is why I SWAN with over 100 holdings... - Robandcindy2 - 10-30-2014

My Sleep Well At Night tactics keeps me in well over 100 equity positions. My options were to religiously monitor 20-40 holdings for signs of stress or hold a broad basket, my own personal ETF, and try to enjoy life just worrying about the elephants in the room.

Yesterday I bailed on ARCP after having Enron flashbacks (never owned the legendary Enron). I logged into the books a real $1400 loss. Or did I really save $4000? Time will tell.

Just a quick 'cocktail napkin' calculation tells me that if my position in ARCP had been 1/20th of my portfolio my real loss would have been much worse. Instead I woke up yesterday, fetched our 4 month old granddaughter for the day, ran out to play a softball game, came home and read the news at SeekingAlpha about ARCP.

Hmmmm.....???

My normal reaction to individual dips such as these are to read every analyst news story I can get. Then I go back and review Morningstar's take. I then re-plot the company at FastGraphs. I finally end up here to see if we are discussing it. In the case of ED last year, SDRL and ESV this year I sit back and think "I got some time....all external..."

Not so with ARCP. "...audit committee discovered "intentional" accounting errors." (http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/29/us-amer-rl-cap-prop-accounts-idUSKBN0II2HZ20141029?feedType=RSS&feedName=PersonalFinance) External market factors vs what amounts to "lying and trust". So I sat back, head against the headrest, elbows in and said "bailout!-bailout!-bailout!"

And then Papa took a nap.

REF:
http://seekingalpha.com/article/2612845-accounting-armageddon-should-you-dump-your-american-realty-stake-and-run-for-the-hills

http://seekingalpha.com/article/2610375-disaster-strikes-for-american-realty-capital-properties

http://seekingalpha.com/article/2586625-is-american-realty-capital-properties-a-sucker-yield-bet


RE: And THAT (ARCP) is why I SWAN with over 100 holdings... - dividendventure - 10-30-2014

(10-30-2014, 06:53 AM)Robandcindy2 Wrote: My Sleep Well At Night tactics keeps me in well over 100 equity positions. My options were to religiously monitor 20-40 holdings for signs of stress or hold a broad basket, my own personal ETF, and try to enjoy life just worrying about the elephants in the room.

Yesterday I bailed on ARCP after having Enron flashbacks (never owned the legendary Enron). I logged into the books a real $1400 loss. Or did I really save $4000? Time will tell.

Just a quick 'cocktail napkin' calculation tells me that if my position in ARCP had been 1/20th of my portfolio my real loss would have been much worse. Instead I woke up yesterday, fetched our 4 month old granddaughter for the day, ran out to play a softball game, came home and read the news at SeekingAlpha about ARCP.

Hmmmm.....???

My normal reaction to individual dips such as these are to read every analyst news story I can get. Then I go back and review Morningstar's take. I then re-plot the company at FastGraphs. I finally end up here to see if we are discussing it. In the case of ED last year, SDRL and ESV this year I sit back and think "I got some time....all external..."

Not so with ARCP. "...audit committee discovered "intentional" accounting errors." (http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/29/us-amer-rl-cap-prop-accounts-idUSKBN0II2HZ20141029?feedType=RSS&feedName=PersonalFinance) External market factors vs what amounts to "lying and trust". So I sat back, head against the headrest, elbows in and said "bailout!-bailout!-bailout!"

And then Papa took a nap.

REF:
http://seekingalpha.com/article/2612845-accounting-armageddon-should-you-dump-your-american-realty-stake-and-run-for-the-hills

http://seekingalpha.com/article/2610375-disaster-strikes-for-american-realty-capital-properties

http://seekingalpha.com/article/2586625-is-american-realty-capital-properties-a-sucker-yield-bet

I am not very familiar with ARCP but I got to say that I completely agree with your position. I tend to have a very optimistic outlook when I trust the management and there's a good track record, but when it enters the domain of fraud, lying and accounting manipulation I am out immediately, no matter how big the share price drop.